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Post  smpratik Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:52 pm

Lets discuss about the Russian stealth bird over here.

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Post  smpratik Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:53 pm

Russia, India to advance deal on PAK-FA fighter variant
BY : Flight International

India and Russia plan to sign several agreements in the coming weeks that will deepen their co-operation on the PAK-FA fifth-generation fighter programme.
“The joint venture is going very well,” says Alexander Klementiev, vice-president and deputy director-general at Sukhoi Aviation Holding. “We cannot go into the specifics of where we are, but both parties are happy now. In a few weeks, we will sign a few more agreements that will allow an even deeper partnership.”
He adds: “Russia attaches great importance to the partnership with India on all fronts. There may be some delays at some points, but it is, overall, a very good relationship. We are confident this will continue in the coming years.”
Klementiev counters several reports made in recent months that Indian scientists and engineers have been unhappy with the level of access they have been given on the PAK-FA programme, saying there is “no major issue”.
Other Russian industry sources say there has been a renewed effort over the past few months to resolve some problems, which relate primarily to the transfer of technology to India. Upcoming agreements are likely to be linked to this issue, they add.
In 2007, India and Russia agreed to begin studying a derivative of Moscow’s PAK-FA fighter. Although Russia is developing a single-seat fighter, India prefers a twin-seat aircraft with stealth capabilities that would incorporate technology from other suppliers in France, India and Israel.
Both India and Russia have not officially confirmed a timeline for when an Indian prototype will be ready, but industry sources suggest the likely target is 2016-17. Russia had been due to have the first flight of the PAK-FA by year-end, but industry sources say this is likely to be delayed into 2010.
Klementiev says Russia is keen to continue supporting India’s fighter requirements, and points to the Sukhoi Su-30MKI programme as a successful example of the partnership between the countries. New Delhi has bought the Su-30s from Russia off the shelf, and is also licence-producing them at Hindustan Aeronautics’ facilities.
Separately, the Indian air force’s Su-30 fleet is operational once again after the second crash this year involving the type. The service grounded its fleet of about 100 aircraft on 2 December following a non-fatal crash on 30 November. The first accident took place in April. India plans to eventually have a fleet of almost 240 Su-30MKIs.



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Post  smpratik Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:58 pm


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Post  neerajb Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:31 pm

smpratik wrote:Worth reading, more insight
http://www.bharatrakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=12165

400-500 crores per aircraft means more than 100 million USD now, don't know what will it cost at the time of production (150-200 million USD a pop).

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Post  Anup Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:31 pm

From the Bharat Rakshak article
The cost of developing the FGFA, which would be shared between both countries, will be $8-10 billion (Rs 37,000-45,000 crore). Over and above that, say IAF and defence ministry sources, each FGFA will cost Rs 400-500 crore.

Hmm...500 Crores is like Us $ 110 m..Adding to that the $10b of development cost makes it around $20 m extra bringing the total cost to $130m + per unit which is pretty expensive.Knowing the Russian as well as India tradition of overrunning the costs, it might as well end up at $150m a piece, almost close to the Raptor

It has a Radar Cross Section (RCS) of just 0.5 square metre as compared to the Su-30MKI’s RCS of about 20 square metres.”
I am truly disappointed with the RCS. An RCS of 0.5m2 is still way too high for the future advanced radars. The F-22 has approx 0 and the JSF has an RCS equal to that of a golf ball which makes it in cms2. Even the F-16 had an RCS of less than 1.
And when did the MKI have a radar cross section of 20m2 ? I doubt if the surface area of that aircraft is 20m2, so how can the RCS be 20 m2 ?
I doubt the reliability of the Bharat Rakshak article?
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Post  Anup Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:34 pm

But the fact that it has been extracted from Business Standard which is a reliable newspaper makes me wonder if the spokesperson was mistaken
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