IAF MRCA Deal

I don't believe the stealth claims even for F-22 yet , let alone the conventional design Super Bug .

I support you when you say SH doesn't have a low RCS because it will end up carrying armaments and pods externally which increase its RCS. However F-22 Raptor has a very low RCS making it stealthy because of its planform alignment design and more over it carries all its weapons internally.

This is a good topic.
Why don't either of you create a topic on stealth plane?

Back on MMRCA.
There are a lot of speculations going on that the contender could be either EF Typhoon or F18 because the engine used by them could be the engine used for Tejas (LCA).

Here is some more info from Wikipedia.

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Aircraft:	Rafale	Eurofighter Typhoon	F-16IN Fighting Falcon	F/A-18E/F Super Hornet	JAS 39 NG(IN)	Mikoyan MiG-35
Country of origin:	France	Germany, Italy, Spain, UK	United States	United States	Sweden	Russia
Manufacturer:	Dassault Aviation	Eurofighter GmbH	Lockheed Martin	Boeing IDS	Saab	RAC-MiG
Length:	15.27 m (50.1 ft)	15.96 m (52 ft 5 in)	15.03 m (49 ft 3 in)	18.31 m (60 ft 1¼ in)	14.1 m (46 ft 3 in)	19 m (62 ft 4 in)
Wingspan	10.80 m (35.4 ft)	10.95 m (35 ft 11 in)	10.0 m (32 ft 8 in)	13.62 m (44 ft 8½ in)	8.4 m (27 ft 7 in)	15 m (49 ft 3 in)
Height:	5.34 m (17.4 ft)	5.28 m (17 ft 4 in)	5.09 m (16 ft 7 in)	4.88 m (16 ft)	4.5 m (14 ft 9 in)	6 m (19 ft 8 in)
Wing Area:	45.7 m² (492 ft²)	50.0 m² (538 ft²)	27.9 m² (300 ft²)	46.0 m² (500 ft²)	30.0 m² (323 ft²)	38.0 m² (409 ft²)
Empty weight:	9,060 kg (20,000 lb)	11,000 kg (24,250 lb)	8,936 kg (19,700 lb)	13,864 kg (30,564 lb)	7,100 kg (15,040 lb)	15,000 kg (33,069 lb)
Maximum Payload:	9,500 kg (21,000 lb)	7,500 kg (16,500 lb)	7,800 kg (17,200 lb)	8,050 kg (17,750 lb)	6,000 kg (10,000 lb)	6,000 kg (13,200 lb)
Max takeoff weight (MTOW):	24,500 kg (54,000 lb)	23,500 kg (51,800 lb)	21,800 kg (48,000 lb)	29,900 kg (66,000 lb)	16,000 kg (35,300 lb)	29,000 kg (65,076 lb)
Powerplant:	2× SNECMA M88-2	2× Eurojet EJ200	1× GE F110-GE-132	2× GE F414-GE-400	1× GE F414G	2× Klimov RD-33MK
Thrust: • Dry Thrust:	50 kN each (11,250 lbf)	60 kN each (13,500 lbf)	84 kN (19,000 lbf)	62.3 kN each (14,000 lbf)	62.3 kN (14,000 lbf)	62.5 kN each (14,030 lbf)
• Afterburner Thrust:	75 kN each (17,000 lbf)	90 kN each (20,250 lbf)	144 kN (32,500 lbf)	98 kN each (22,000 lbf)	98 kN (22,000 lbf)	88.3 kN each (19,800 lbf)
Fuel: • Internal          • External	4,700 kg 7,500 kg	4,996 kg	3,265 kg 5,880 kg	F/A-18E: 6,530 kg, F/A-18F: 6,145 kg 5 tanks, totaling 7,430 kg
Maximum speed:     • At Sea Level	Mach 1.8+	Mach 2.0+ (2.34)(Mach 1.2 Supercruise)	Mach 2.05 800 KCAS	Mach 1.8	Mach 2.0 (Mach 1.2 supercruise)	Mach 2.25 Mach 1.2
Ferry range:    • Unrefueled:    • Extl. Tanks	3,700+  km	3,790 km	4,220  km with drop tanks	3,054 km	4,075 km	2,000 km 3,200 km
Combat Radius:	1,800 km	1,390 km	1,700 km	2,346 km
Service ceiling:	17,000 m (56,000 ft)	19,812 m (65,000 ft)	15,239 m (49,997 ft)	15,000 m (50,000 ft)	17,000 m (56,000 ft)	17,500 m (57,400 ft)
Rate of climb:	305 m/s (60,000 ft/min)	315 m/s (62,000 ft/min)	254 m/s (50,000 ft/min)			300 m/s (60,000 ft/min)
Thrust/weight:	1.13	1.18		0.93	1.06	1.1
Weapons Load:	9,500 kg	7,000 kg	6,500 kg	8,000 kg	6,000 kg	7,000 kg
External Stations:**	14 (5 'wet')	13	11 (3 'wet')	11 (5)	10	9
Thrust vectoring	None	None	None	None	None	3D TVC
Unit cost:	US$67.2 million	US$82.8 million £66.7 million	US$50 million	US$58 million	US$48 million	US$38.5 million
Notes:	** = Wet stations

Now if somebody is doing his math here, then look at the price of Euro-Fighter Typhoon.

@nalin
Take a look at this

http://www.eurofighter.com/et_co_aa.asp

Evry company is gonna highlight its plane. They are not gonna say that - Our plane is useless. Dont buy it.

Wht we need to luk at is wht is most suitable for us. Mooney ij impartant. Else evry1 would buy F22.

Here is something:

F16IN is called block 70 ? ?
is it true

check out this pic

AFAIK the MRCA F-16 is given a designation as IN - Super Viper. Its basically a Blk-60 in different colour scheme. I find no reason to give it Blk-70 tag.

Vishal wrote:F16IN is called block 70 ? ?
is it true

check out this pic

Are u sure u wanted to show this pic vishal?

yup
i dun know where i got this image frm
the design waz different frm current F16's so i posted the image too

There is no update as such on internet about F16 block 70. The Block 60F16 which UAE has would be further upgraded in the F16IN. Lets see what we get. There seems to be no news what so ever on MMRCA deal.

The reports would be all held secret I am sure.

3D cockpit view of the F-16IN.
The application takes time to load, so one has to be patient.

Enjoy!

http://www.lmaeronautics.com/f16in/F-16IN%20Spherical%20REZED%208-26.html

By when would the winner of MMRCA be announced?

ACM says the FET will end by April 2010 and the govt will be informed. He also believes that the aircraft will enter service by 2013 so the decision should be taken by the third or fourth quarter.